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Founder or thinker

Would the proposed Constitution create a dangerous consolidated government?

Patrick Henry Founder or thinker

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Patrick Henry

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Patrick Henry believed the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, arguing it would endanger rights and state sovereignty. His concerns were not realized in the immediate aftermath of ratification, and the Constitution was adopted. Confidence in this position is moderate due to the presence of competing interpretations.

  • 1788-06-04 “It is otherwise most clearly a consolidated government. The question turns, sir, on that poor little thing — the expression, We, the people, instead of the states, of America.” Reporter's notes
  • undated “we, the said delegates, in the name and behalf of the people of Virginia, do by these presents assent to and ratify the constitution recom-” OCR text

OCR: 8 cited passage(s) are machine-read (OCR) text of old printings; quotations reproduce the stored OCR text, misreadings included.

Reporter's notes: some cited speeches survive only as a reporter's shorthand record, not the speaker's own text.

The full record: ledger, contrary evidence, reasoning, sources

OCR: 8 cited passage(s) are machine-read (OCR) text of old printings; quotations reproduce the stored OCR text, misreadings included.

Reporter's notes: some cited speeches survive only as a reporter's shorthand record, not the speaker's own text.

1. WHAT HE SAID (the record)

Record ledger

  • ACTION (editor's note) (1776-12; editor's note, not his words): In December 1776, during the closing hours of the Assembly, it was proposed in the House of Delegates to create a Dictator with full legislative, executive, and judiciary powers over persons and properties. "It was proposed, in the House of Delegates, to create a Dictator, invested with every power, legislative, executive and judiciary, civil and military, of life and of death, over our persons and over our properties."
  • BELIEF (1788-06-04; reporter's paraphrase): Patrick Henry believed that the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, arguing that it would be incompatible with the genius of republicanism and lack real checks and balances.
  • BELIEF (1788-06-04; reporter's paraphrase): Patrick Henry believed that the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, not a confederation of states. He argued that the phrase 'We, the people' indicated a consolidation of power rather than a compact between states, and he expressed concern that this would endanger rights and state sovereignty. (key quote above)
  • BELIEF (1789-09-28): Patrick Henry believed that the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, as he argued that consolidation would inevitably take place without great care and wisdom on the part of the states. "Consolidation must therefore inevitably take place in process of time, without great care and much wisdom on the part of the states."
  • ACTION (editor's note) (1799-11-14; editor's note, not his words): Patrick Henry had insisted in the Convention of 1788, and still believed, that the Constitution had changed the confederation of States into a consolidated government. "He had insisted in the Convention of 1788, and still believed, had changed the confederation of States into a consolidated government."
  • ACTION (editor's note) (undated; editor's note, not his words): The editor's note lists Patrick Henry among the delegates of the Virginia Convention who assented to and ratified the Constitution. The action is not dated, but it occurred between 1788 and an undefined later date. (key quote above)
  • ACTION (editor's note) (undated; editor's note, not his words): Patrick Henry predicted that the unamended Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government. He advocated for amendments to protect the rights of the people and the States and to ensure the new government served liberty. "His great aim was to engraft such amendments as would protect the rights of the people and of the States from the great power called into existence"
  • ACTION (editor's note) (undated; editor's note, not his words): Mr. Henry contended that the balance of power between the Northern and Southern States would be affected as a result of the consolidation of the Federal Government. "As a result of the consolidation of the Federal Government, Mr. Henry contended fchat the balance of power between the Northern and Southern States"
  • ACTION (editor's note) (undated; editor's note, not his words): Patrick Henry moved a resolution that prior to ratifying the new Constitution, a declaration of rights and amendments should be referred to other States for consideration. The resolution was defeated by a vote of 80 ayes to 88 noes. "In lieu of the resolution of ratification he moved: 'That previous to the ratification of the new constitution of government recommended by the late convention, a declaration of rights...ought to be referred by this convention to the other States in the American confederacy for their consideration.'"
  • BELIEF (undated): Patrick Henry believed that the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government. He argued that consolidating the thirteen States into one government would be undesirable and dangerous, as it would lead to disunion and weaken the safety provided by treaties with other nations. "I look on the treaties as the greatest pillars of safety... but it is not so, that we should be consolidated into one government."

What cuts against it

  • ACTION (editor's note) (undated; editor's note, not his words): The editor's note indicates that Patrick Henry's belief in the Constitution as a consolidated government was one of several competing interpretations, with the Supreme Court and Federal Government adopting a different construction. "This construction was adopted by the Supreme Court, and acted on by the Federal Government in its several departments"
  • ACTION (editor's note) (1776-12; editor's note, not his words): In 1776, Patrick Henry was part of a political environment where the idea of a dictator with full powers was proposed, which contrasts with his later opposition to consolidation. "It was proposed, in the House of Delegates, to create a Dictator, invested with every power, legislative, executive and judiciary, civil and military, of life and of death, over our persons and over our properties."

2. HOW IT APPLIES (reasoning; inference is marked)

1. Patrick Henry believed the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, not a confederation of states. This is evident in his speech where he stated, "It is otherwise most clearly a consolidated government."

2. He argued that the phrase "We, the people" indicated a consolidation of power rather than a compact between states. This belief is supported by his statement, "The question turns, sir, on that poor little thing — the expression, We, the people, instead of the states, of America."

3. Henry expressed concern that this consolidation would endanger rights and state sovereignty. He stated, "That this is a consolidated government is demonstrably clear; and the danger of such a government is, to my mind, very striking."

4. Despite his opposition, Henry was among the delegates who assented to and ratified the Constitution. This is recorded in the editor's note: (key quote above)

5. The editor's note indicates that Henry's belief in the Constitution as a consolidated government was one of several competing interpretations, with the Supreme Court and Federal Government adopting a different construction. "This construction was adopted by the Supreme Court, and acted on by the Federal Government in its several departments"

3. HIS TAKE

Record coverage: PARTIAL

The record is silent on the specific mechanisms Henry proposed to prevent consolidation and the long-term effects of his advocacy for amendments.

Extrapolation: Patrick Henry believed the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, arguing that it would be incompatible with the genius of republicanism and lack real checks and balances. He was concerned that this consolidation would endanger rights and state sovereignty.

Competing readings: The editor's note indicates that Henry's belief in the Constitution as a consolidated government was one of several competing interpretations, with the Supreme Court and Federal Government adopting a different construction.

Confidence: Moderate, based on the partial record and the presence of competing interpretations.

Sources cited (click to read the passage)
  1. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 1 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Editor's or biographer's text (outside the document index): The Honble. CORNELIUS HARNETT, ESQ.. Date: 1776-12. Source type: EDITOR'S NOTE (the editor's words, not the person's) (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife01henrrich/0558.00
  2. Reporter's notes
    Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3) (Jonathan Elliot (ed.), The debates in the several state conventions on the adoption of the), pp. 53-55. Document: Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3). Date: 1788-06-04. Source type: reporter's notes (paraphrase; not verbatim speech). Passage id: patrick-henry/elliot-vol3-virginia-ratifying-convention-speeches/0000.17. Variants: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0153.15. Note: Elliot's Debates: the convention reporter's shorthand record of the speech, not the speaker's text.
  3. Reporter's notes
    Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3) (Jonathan Elliot (ed.), The debates in the several state conventions on the adoption of the), pp. 44-45. Document: Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3). Date: 1788-06-04. Source type: reporter's notes (paraphrase; not verbatim speech). Passage id: patrick-henry/elliot-vol3-virginia-ratifying-convention-speeches/0000.04. Variants: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0153.03. Note: Elliot's Debates: the convention reporter's shorthand record of the speech, not the speaker's text.
  4. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 3 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Patrick Henry to Thomas Madison.. Date: 1789-09-28. Source type: old edited collection (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0141.02
  5. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 2 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Editor's or biographer's text (outside the document index): KENTUCKY AND VIRGINIA. 589. Date: 1799-11-14. Source type: EDITOR'S NOTE (the editor's words, not the person's) (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife02henrrich/0655.00
  6. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 2 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Editor's or biographer's text (outside the document index): VIRGINIA CONVENTION. 365. Date: undated. Source type: EDITOR'S NOTE (the editor's words, not the person's) (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife02henrrich/0409.00
  7. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 2 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Editor's or biographer's text (outside the document index): 408 PATRICK HENRY.. Date: undated. Source type: EDITOR'S NOTE (the editor's words, not the person's) (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife02henrrich/0452.00
  8. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 2 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Editor's or biographer's text (outside the document index): 382 PATRICK HENRY.. Date: undated. Source type: EDITOR'S NOTE (the editor's words, not the person's) (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife02henrrich/0426.00
  9. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 2 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Editor's or biographer's text (outside the document index): VIRGINIA CONVENTION. 373. Date: undated. Source type: EDITOR'S NOTE (the editor's words, not the person's) (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife02henrrich/0417.00
  10. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 3 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: IN THE VIRGINIA CONVENTION OF JUNE, 1788, CON VENED TO CONSIDER THE QUESTION OF THE ADOP. Date: undated. Source type: old edited collection (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0153.67
  11. Reporter's notes
    Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3) (Jonathan Elliot (ed.), The debates in the several state conventions on the adoption of the), pp. 22-23. Document: Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3). Date: 1788-06-04. Source type: reporter's notes (paraphrase; not verbatim speech). Passage id: patrick-henry/elliot-vol3-virginia-ratifying-convention-speeches/0000.02. Variants: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0153.02, patrick-henry/elliot-vol3-virginia-ratifying-convention-speeches/0000.03. Note: Elliot's Debates: the convention reporter's shorthand record of the speech, not the speaker's text.

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