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Founder or thinker

Would the proposed Constitution create a dangerous consolidated government?

Patrick Henry, as of 1788 Founder or thinker

Read this first Extrapolation from the historical record, not the words of the founder.
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Patrick Henry

Quotes verified 14/14Coverage: DIRECTAs of 1788

Patrick Henry believed the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, lacking real checks and balances and leading to the destruction of state governments. His confidence in this belief was high, as shown in his speeches and actions.

  • 1788-06-04 “It clearly results, from his last argument, that we are to be consolidated... The junction of these, without limitation, in the same hands, is... the description of despotism.” Reporter's notes

OCR: 8 cited passage(s) are machine-read (OCR) text of old printings; quotations reproduce the stored OCR text, misreadings included.

Reporter's notes: some cited speeches survive only as a reporter's shorthand record, not the speaker's own text.

The full record: ledger, contrary evidence, reasoning, sources

OCR: 8 cited passage(s) are machine-read (OCR) text of old printings; quotations reproduce the stored OCR text, misreadings included.

Reporter's notes: some cited speeches survive only as a reporter's shorthand record, not the speaker's own text.

1. WHAT HE SAID (the record)

Record ledger

  • ACTION (editor's note) (1787-09-17; editor's note, not his words): Patrick Henry opposed a motion on September 17, 1787, in a speech of great power, arguing that the construction of the Constitution in the ratification resolution would not affect its operation and that the ratification would be complete. "Mr. Henry at once arose and opposed the motion in a speech of great power."
  • BELIEF (1788-06-04; reporter's paraphrase): Patrick Henry believed that the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, arguing that it would be incompatible with the genius of republicanism and lack real checks and balances.
  • BELIEF (1788-06-04; reporter's paraphrase): Patrick Henry believed that the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, because he argued that the powers of the sword and purse would be concentrated in Congress without checks or barriers, leading to the destruction of state governments and the rise of despotism. (key quote above)
  • BELIEF (undated): Patrick Henry believed that the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, as he expressed deep concern over it and could not bring his mind to accord with it. "I have to lament that I cannot bring my mind to accord with the proposed Constitution. The Concern I feel on this account is really greater than I am able to express."
  • ACTION (editor's note) (undated; editor's note, not his words): Patrick Henry moved and carried a provision for paying the expenses of delegates to another Federal Convention, if one was determined on, on November 30. This action shows his opposition to immediate adoption of the Constitution and his intent to explore amendments. "Mr. Henry moved and carried, a provision for paying the expenses of any delegates the body might send to sister States with a view to consulting as to proper amendments, and of delegates to another Federal Convention, if one was determined on."
  • BELIEF (undated): Patrick Henry objected to the Constitution and believed it would create a dangerous consolidated government. This is based on the passage stating that he had 'objections to the Constitution' and 'predictions as to the working of the Constitution', implying his belief in its potential for consolidation and danger. "Mr. Henry's objections to the Constitution, 379, etc. ; effect of amendments adopted, 385, etc. ; probable effect of those not adopted, 391 ; Mr. Henry's predictions as to the working of the Constitution, 397, etc."
  • ACTION (undated): Patrick Henry's convention did not concur with the committee's amendments to the proposed Constitution, as the main question was resolved in the affirmative. This indicates that the convention approved the amendments, including those aimed at preventing a dangerous consolidated government. "And then the main question being put that this convention doth concur with the committee in the said amendments ; It was resolved in the affirmative."
  • BELIEF (undated): Patrick Henry believed that the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government. He argued that consolidating the thirteen States into one government would be undesirable and dangerous, as it would lead to disunion and weaken the safety provided by treaties with other nations. "I look on the treaties as the greatest pillars of safety... but it is not so, that we should be consolidated into one government."
  • BELIEF (undated): Patrick Henry believed that the proposed Constitution would create a consolidated government for almost every purpose, which he considered dangerous. He argued that it would diminish the role of state governments, including Virginia's, to trivial matters. "Is it not a consolidated government for every purpose almost ? Is the government of Virginia a State government after this government is adopted ?"
  • BELIEF (undated): Patrick Henry believed the proposed Constitution would create a consolidated government. This is shown by his insistence in the Convention that the Confederation was changed into a consolidated government. "insists that the Confederation was changed into a consolidated government"

What cuts against it

  • The contrary-evidence entries are already in the record ledger above: , , .

2. HOW IT APPLIES (reasoning; inference is marked)

1. Patrick Henry believed the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, arguing it lacked real checks and balances. "That this is a consolidated government is demonstrably clear; and the danger of such a government is, to my mind, very striking."

2. He argued that the phrase "We, the people" indicated a shift from a confederacy to a consolidated government, which he viewed as extremely pernicious. "It is otherwise most clearly a consolidated government."

3. He feared that the powers of the sword and purse would be concentrated in Congress without checks or barriers, leading to the destruction of state governments and the rise of despotism. "The junction of these, without limitation, in the same hands, is... the description of despotism."

4. He believed that consolidating the thirteen States into one government would be undesirable and dangerous, as it would lead to disunion and weaken the safety provided by treaties with other nations. "I look on the treaties as the greatest pillars of safety... but it is not so, that we should be consolidated into one government."

5. He argued that the proposed Constitution would allow a small minority to prevent changes desired by the majority, overriding the principle that a majority should be able to alter their government for the public good. "Is it not, therefore, a consolidated government?"

3. HIS TAKE

Record coverage: DIRECT

Extrapolation: Patrick Henry believed the proposed Constitution would create a dangerous consolidated government, lacking real checks and balances, leading to the destruction of state governments and the rise of despotism.

Competing readings: The record itself states his belief in the danger of consolidation and his opposition to immediate adoption, but does not provide a different reading.

Confidence: High, as his statements are direct and consistent across multiple passages.

Sources cited (click to read the passage)
  1. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 2 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Editor's or biographer's text (outside the document index): 366 PATRICK HENRY.. Date: 1787-09-17. Source type: EDITOR'S NOTE (the editor's words, not the person's) (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife02henrrich/0410.00
  2. Reporter's notes
    Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3) (Jonathan Elliot (ed.), The debates in the several state conventions on the adoption of the), pp. 53-55. Document: Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3). Date: 1788-06-04. Source type: reporter's notes (paraphrase; not verbatim speech). Passage id: patrick-henry/elliot-vol3-virginia-ratifying-convention-speeches/0000.17. Variants: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0153.15. Note: Elliot's Debates: the convention reporter's shorthand record of the speech, not the speaker's text.
  3. Reporter's notes
    Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3) (Jonathan Elliot (ed.), The debates in the several state conventions on the adoption of the), p. 396. Document: Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3). Date: 1788-06-04. Source type: reporter's notes (paraphrase; not verbatim speech). Passage id: patrick-henry/elliot-vol3-virginia-ratifying-convention-speeches/0000.106. Variants: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0153.99. Note: Elliot's Debates: the convention reporter's shorthand record of the speech, not the speaker's text.
  4. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 2 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Governor Randolph. Its distinguishing feature was. Date: undated. Source type: old edited collection (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife02henrrich/0360.02
  5. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 2 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Editor's or biographer's text (outside the document index): 324 PATRICK HENRY.. Date: undated. Source type: EDITOR'S NOTE (the editor's words, not the person's) (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife02henrrich/0364.00
  6. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 3 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Virginia Delegation to Continental. Date: undated. Source type: old edited collection (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0156.03
  7. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 3 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION.. Date: undated. Source type: old edited collection (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0154.03
  8. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 3 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: IN THE VIRGINIA CONVENTION OF JUNE, 1788, CON VENED TO CONSIDER THE QUESTION OF THE ADOP. Date: undated. Source type: old edited collection (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0153.67
  9. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 3 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: IN THE VIRGINIA CONVENTION OF JUNE, 1788, CON VENED TO CONSIDER THE QUESTION OF THE ADOP. Date: undated. Source type: old edited collection (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0153.65
  10. OCR text
    Patrick Henry: Life, Correspondence and Speeches, vol. 3 (William Wirt Henry, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1891). Document: Virginia Delegation to Continental. Date: undated. Source type: old edited collection (OCR text). Passage id: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0156.14
  11. Reporter's notes
    Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3) (Jonathan Elliot (ed.), The debates in the several state conventions on the adoption of the), pp. 22-23. Document: Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3). Date: 1788-06-04. Source type: reporter's notes (paraphrase; not verbatim speech). Passage id: patrick-henry/elliot-vol3-virginia-ratifying-convention-speeches/0000.02. Variants: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0153.02, patrick-henry/elliot-vol3-virginia-ratifying-convention-speeches/0000.03. Note: Elliot's Debates: the convention reporter's shorthand record of the speech, not the speaker's text.
  12. Reporter's notes
    Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3) (Jonathan Elliot (ed.), The debates in the several state conventions on the adoption of the), pp. 44-45. Document: Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3). Date: 1788-06-04. Source type: reporter's notes (paraphrase; not verbatim speech). Passage id: patrick-henry/elliot-vol3-virginia-ratifying-convention-speeches/0000.04. Variants: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0153.03. Note: Elliot's Debates: the convention reporter's shorthand record of the speech, not the speaker's text.
  13. Reporter's notes
    Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3) (Jonathan Elliot (ed.), The debates in the several state conventions on the adoption of the), p. 56. Document: Speeches in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1787-1788 (extracted from Elliot's Debates vol. 3). Date: 1788-06-04. Source type: reporter's notes (paraphrase; not verbatim speech). Passage id: patrick-henry/elliot-vol3-virginia-ratifying-convention-speeches/0000.18. Variants: patrick-henry/ia-pathenrylife03henrrich/0153.16. Note: Elliot's Debates: the convention reporter's shorthand record of the speech, not the speaker's text.

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